Etymology and origin of the Romanian word dedesubt
- Confidence
- Established
- Formation
- Compound
- First attested
- c. 1500–1520 Psaltirea Hurmuzaki More words from the 15th century
- Ultimate origin
- Latin subtus
Etymology tree
Pronunciation
- /de.deˈsubt/, /de.deˈsupt/[1]
Forms
dedesubt[1] MDA2 gives the variant dedesupt;[2][3] Dosoftei writes didesupt: „Fu .. didesupt pârjolit cu foc” “he was scorched with fire from underneath”.[2][3]
Etymology
It is formed from Romanian de + de + subt, with the preposition doubled.[2][4][3][5] Wiktionary explains it as the older desubt with the preposition added a second time, a process seen in the phrase ⟨de dedesubt⟩; it compares the doubling in ălălalt.[1] The older form matches Italian di sotto and French dessous.[1]
The base subt is a variant of sub, from Latin subtus (“below”), which survives in all four branches: Aromanian sum, Megleno-Romanian sup and Istro-Romanian su.[6] Ciorănescu lists the word among its compounds.[6]
Earliest recorded meaning
The first record is in the Psaltirea Hurmuzaki of the early 16th century, as dedesupt “below, beneath” (Psalm 85).[2][7] Tiktin cites the Psaltirea Scheiană.[5]
Semantic evolution
The adverb “in the lower part, underneath”, opposed to deasupra, is the oldest use; with de it serves as an adjective, “lower”.[2][4][8] The 17th-century Slavonic–Romanian lexicons use it to render Slavonic words for “under” and “nethermost”.[9] The articled dedesubtul with a genitive works as a preposition, “under, beneath”.[2][10] As a neuter noun it means the lowest or deepest part of something, and in the plural dedesubturi the hidden, often dishonest side of an affair.[2][4][8]
Timeline
- c. 1500–1520 – dedesupt in the Psaltirea Hurmuzaki, the first record.[2][7]
- 16th century – in the Psaltirea Scheiană.[5]
- 1570 – in Coresi's psalter.[11]
- 1649 – in Mardarie's Slavonic–Romanian lexicon.[9]
- 1688 – often in the Bucharest Bible.[12]
Meanings
Adverb
- below, underneath; in the lower part, under something.[4][2][1]
- (with de, as an adjective) Lower, from below: camera de dedesubt.[4][2]
Preposition
Noun
- The underside, the lowest or deepest part of something.[4][2]
- (figurative, mostly plural) The hidden, secret side of an affair or situation.[4][2][8]
Related words
Usage notes
The noun has the plural dedesubturi.[4][2] It is pronounced with /b/ or /p/ before the final /t/.[1]
References
- ^ a b c d e f Wiktionary, the free dictionary, https://en.wiktionary.org
- ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n Academia Română, Institutul de Lingvistică „Iorgu Iordan – Al. Rosetti” (2010), Micul dicționar academic, 2nd ed., 4 vols., București: Univers Enciclopedic Gold, p. 1, 622
- ^ a b c Academia Română (1965–2010), Dicționarul limbii române (DLR), serie nouă, tom I–XIX, București: Editura Academiei Române, p. s.v. dedesubt
- ^ a b c d e f g h DEX (2009), Dicționarul explicativ al limbii române [Explanatory dictionary of the Romanian language], Bucharest: Editura Univers Enciclopedic, p. 280
- ^ a b c Tiktin, Hariton (2000–2005), Rumänisch-deutsches Wörterbuch, 3rd ed., revised by Paul Miron and Elsa Lüder, 3 vols., Cluj-Napoca: Clusium, p. s.v. dedesubt
- ^ a b Ciorănescu, Alexandru (1958–1966), Diccionario etimológico rumano, La Laguna: Universidad de La Laguna (Romanian ed.: Dicționarul etimologic al limbii române, București: Saeculum, 2001), p. s.v. sub
- ^ a b Gînsac, Ana-Maria; Ungureanu, Mădălina; Moruz, Alexandru et al., roPsalt: Re-evaluating the Sixteenth Century Romanian Psalters (aligned corpus), Iași: Universitatea „Alexandru Ioan Cuza”, https://scriptadacoromanica.ro, p. Ps 85:12
- ^ a b c Macrea, Dimitrie; Petrovici, Emil (coord.) (1955–1957), Dicționarul limbii romîne literare contemporane, 4 vols., București: Editura Academiei Republicii Populare Romîne, p. 2, 35
- ^ a b Ungureanu, Mădălina; Gînsac, Ana-Maria; Moruz, Alexandru (eds.), eRomLex: The First Romanian Bilingual Dictionaries (17th century), Iași: Universitatea „Alexandru Ioan Cuza”, https://scriptadacoromanica.ro, p. s.v. dedesupt
- ^ a b Candrea, I.-A.; Adamescu, Gh. (1926–1931), Dicționarul enciclopedic ilustrat „Cartea Românească”, București: Cartea Românească, p. s.v. dedesubt
- ^ Gînsac, Ana-Maria; Ungureanu, Mădălina; Moruz, Alexandru et al., roPsalt: Re-evaluating the Sixteenth Century Romanian Psalters (aligned corpus), Iași: Universitatea „Alexandru Ioan Cuza”, https://scriptadacoromanica.ro, p. Ps 87:6
- ^ Biblia, adecă Dumnezeiasca Scriptură a ceii vechi și a ceii noao leage, București, 1688 (ed. 1988, tricentennial edition), p. Gen 6:16
Related etymologies
Cite this entry
“Dedesubt.” Etymologically, 12 Nov. 2026, etymologically.com/ro/dedesubt. Accessed 12 Nov. 2026.
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