Etymology and origin of the Old French word desoneste
- Confidence
- Established
- Formation
- Derivation
- First attested
- 1180–1200 Sermons of Saint Bernard More words from the 12th century
- Ultimate origin
- Latin honōs
Etymology tree
From the same root
Forms
desoneste adj.[1]
Etymology
It is formed from Old French des- + honeste (“honourable”).[5] The adjective honeste is from Latin honestus (“honourable”),[6] a derivative of honōs (“honour”).[7] Etymonline also considers a Medieval Latin or Gallo-Roman compound with dis-, noting that the Latin formation was dehonestus.[7]
Earliest recorded meaning
The earliest records are of the end of the 12th century: desoneste in the Lorraine translation of Saint Bernard's sermons, in a manuscript of about 1180,[8] and deshoneste in Guischart de Beauliu's Anglo-Norman sermon.[9][10] The AND's first citation is of the same period, with the sense "dishonourable, base".[2]
Semantic evolution
The word covered what is unbecoming in general: dishonourable, improper and lewd.[2] Godefroy defines it as violating propriety in matters of modesty, decency and honour.[3] Of a thing it could mean ugly or horrible, as in the Vers de la mort, of the mid-13th century in the TLFi's dating and 1266 in the DEAF's,[5][11] and Brunetto Latini's Trésor, about 1265, uses it for "dishonest, unseemly".[5] In Middle French it was chiefly "immodest, indecent", of persons and of acts,[12] and modern French déshonnête keeps that sense.[5]
Timeline
- 1180–1200 – desoneste in the sermons of Saint Bernard, Lorraine.[8]
- 1185–1200 – deshoneste in Guischart de Beauliu's Anglo-Norman sermon.[9][2]
- c. 1213 – the noun deshonesteté in the AND.[13]
- c. 1265 – "dishonest, unseemly" in Brunetto Latini's Trésor.[5]
- 1266 – "horrible" in the Vers de la mort.[5][11]
Meanings
Adjective
- dishonourable, base, shameful.[2]
- improper, unseemly, indecent.[1][3][5]
- immoral, lewd.[2][12]
- (of a thing) ugly, horrible.[5]
Anglo-Norman
The AND heads the adjective deshoneste, with the spellings deshonest and dishonest, and first cites it from the end of the 12th century; it also has the nouns deshonesteté, from about 1213, and deshonesté, from 1397.[2][13][14] Middle English took the adjective as dishoneste "dishonourable; immodest", which the MED derives from des(h)oneste,[15] and English dishonest is recorded from the late 14th century.[7]
Word family
- desonesté
- deshonesteté
- deshonester
Descendants
- Middle French deshonneste (→ French déshonnête)[12][5]
- Middle English dishoneste (borrowed; → English dishonest)[15][7]
Related words
Usage notes
Tobler–Lommatzsch heads the adjective desoneste, Godefroy's Complément and the AND deshoneste, and the DMF deshonneste.[12][2]
References
- ^ a b Tobler, Adolf; Lommatzsch, Erhard (1925–2002), Altfranzösisches Wörterbuch, 11 vols., Berlin / Wiesbaden / Stuttgart: Weidmann / Steiner, p. 2:1663
- ^ a b c d e f g h Anglo-Norman Dictionary (AND2), Aberystwyth University, anglo-norman.net (2nd ed., 2005–), p. s.v. deshoneste
- ^ a b c Godefroy, Frédéric (1881–1902), Dictionnaire de l'ancienne langue française et de tous ses dialectes du IXe au XVe siècle, 10 vols., Paris: Vieweg / Bouillon, p. 9:340
- ^ FROLEX 3.0, lexique morphologique du français médiéval (IXe–XVe s.), Base de français médiéval, ENS de Lyon (from the BFM, the Nouveau Corpus d'Amsterdam and the DMF), github.com/sheiden/Medieval-French-Language-Toolkit
- ^ a b c d e f g h i Trésor de la langue française informatisé (2004), ATILF – CNRS & Université de Lorraine, atilf.fr/tlfi; electronic version of Imbs, Paul; Quemada, Bernard, eds. (1971–1994), Trésor de la langue française, Paris: CNRS / Gallimard
- ^ Wiktionary, the free dictionary, https://en.wiktionary.org
- ^ a b c d Harper, Douglas. Online Etymology Dictionary, https://www.etymonline.com
- ^ a b Stein, Achim; Kunstmann, Pierre; Gleßgen, Martin-D., eds., Nouveau Corpus d'Amsterdam, version 4 (lemmatised corpus of Old French texts, after A. Dees), Universität Stuttgart, github.com/michaniets/NCA (texts by DEAF siglum), p. SBernAn2S
- ^ a b Stein, Achim; Kunstmann, Pierre; Gleßgen, Martin-D., eds., Nouveau Corpus d'Amsterdam, version 4 (lemmatised corpus of Old French texts, after A. Dees), Universität Stuttgart, github.com/michaniets/NCA (texts by DEAF siglum), p. GuischartG_H
- ^ Möhren, Frankwalt, Dictionnaire étymologique de l'ancien français (DEAF): Complément bibliographique, electronic version (DEAFBiblEl), Heidelberger Akademie der Wissenschaften, alma.hadw-bw.de/deafbibl (texts by siglum, with their dates), p. GuischartG
- ^ a b Möhren, Frankwalt, Dictionnaire étymologique de l'ancien français (DEAF): Complément bibliographique, electronic version (DEAFBiblEl), Heidelberger Akademie der Wissenschaften, alma.hadw-bw.de/deafbibl (texts by siglum, with their dates), p. VMortAnW
- ^ a b c d Dictionnaire du Moyen Français, version 2015 (DMF 2015), ATILF – CNRS & Université de Lorraine, atilf.fr/dmf, p. s.v. déshonnête
- ^ a b Anglo-Norman Dictionary (AND2), Aberystwyth University, anglo-norman.net (2nd ed., 2005–), p. s.v. deshonesteté
- ^ Anglo-Norman Dictionary (AND2), Aberystwyth University, anglo-norman.net (2nd ed., 2005–), p. s.v. deshonesté
- ^ a b Kurath, Hans; Kuhn, Sherman M.; Lewis, Robert E., eds. (1952–2001), Middle English Dictionary, Ann Arbor: University of Michigan Press; online edition ed. Frances McSparran et al. (2000–2018)
Related etymologies
Cite this entry
“Desoneste.” Etymologically, 13 Nov. 2026, etymologically.com/fro/desoneste. Accessed 13 Nov. 2026.
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