Etymologically

Etymology and origin of the Old French word desoneste

Confidence
Established
Formation
Derivation
First attested
1180–1200 Sermons of Saint Bernard More words from the 12th century
Ultimate origin
Latin honōs
Etymology tree
inherited borrowed derived
Latin honestus
French honnête
Italian onesto
Old French honeste
English honest
Old French desoneste
English dishonest
Spanish honesto
From the same root
Latin honestās ← honestus
Latin honestē ← honestus
Latin honestō ← honestus
Latin honestum ← honestus
Latin inhonestus ← honestus
Spanish deshonesto ← honesto

Forms

desoneste adj.[1]

Etymology

It is formed from Old French des- + honeste (“honourable”).[5] The adjective honeste is from Latin honestus (“honourable”),[6] a derivative of honōs (“honour”).[7] Etymonline also considers a Medieval Latin or Gallo-Roman compound with dis-, noting that the Latin formation was dehonestus.[7]

Earliest recorded meaning

The earliest records are of the end of the 12th century: desoneste in the Lorraine translation of Saint Bernard's sermons, in a manuscript of about 1180,[8] and deshoneste in Guischart de Beauliu's Anglo-Norman sermon.[9][10] The AND's first citation is of the same period, with the sense "dishonourable, base".[2]

Semantic evolution

The word covered what is unbecoming in general: dishonourable, improper and lewd.[2] Godefroy defines it as violating propriety in matters of modesty, decency and honour.[3] Of a thing it could mean ugly or horrible, as in the Vers de la mort, of the mid-13th century in the TLFi's dating and 1266 in the DEAF's,[5][11] and Brunetto Latini's Trésor, about 1265, uses it for "dishonest, unseemly".[5] In Middle French it was chiefly "immodest, indecent", of persons and of acts,[12] and modern French déshonnête keeps that sense.[5]

Timeline

  • 1180–1200 – desoneste in the sermons of Saint Bernard, Lorraine.[8]
  • 1185–1200 – deshoneste in Guischart de Beauliu's Anglo-Norman sermon.[9][2]
  • c. 1213 – the noun deshonesteté in the AND.[13]
  • c. 1265 – "dishonest, unseemly" in Brunetto Latini's Trésor.[5]
  • 1266 – "horrible" in the Vers de la mort.[5][11]

Meanings

Adjective

  1. dishonourable, base, shameful.[2]
  2. improper, unseemly, indecent.[1][3][5]
  3. immoral, lewd.[2][12]
  4. (of a thing) ugly, horrible.[5]

Anglo-Norman

The AND heads the adjective deshoneste, with the spellings deshonest and dishonest, and first cites it from the end of the 12th century; it also has the nouns deshonesteté, from about 1213, and deshonesté, from 1397.[2][13][14] Middle English took the adjective as dishoneste "dishonourable; immodest", which the MED derives from des(h)oneste,[15] and English dishonest is recorded from the late 14th century.[7]

Word family

  • desonesté
  • deshonesteté
  • deshonester

Descendants

  • Middle French deshonneste (→ French déshonnête)[12][5]
  • Middle English dishoneste (borrowed; → English dishonest)[15][7]

Usage notes

Tobler–Lommatzsch heads the adjective desoneste, Godefroy's Complément and the AND deshoneste, and the DMF deshonneste.[12][2]

References

  1. ^ a b Tobler, Adolf; Lommatzsch, Erhard (1925–2002), Altfranzösisches Wörterbuch, 11 vols., Berlin / Wiesbaden / Stuttgart: Weidmann / Steiner, p. 2:1663
  2. ^ a b c d e f g h Anglo-Norman Dictionary (AND2), Aberystwyth University, anglo-norman.net (2nd ed., 2005–), p. s.v. deshoneste
  3. ^ a b c Godefroy, Frédéric (1881–1902), Dictionnaire de l'ancienne langue française et de tous ses dialectes du IXe au XVe siècle, 10 vols., Paris: Vieweg / Bouillon, p. 9:340
  4. ^ FROLEX 3.0, lexique morphologique du français médiéval (IXe–XVe s.), Base de français médiéval, ENS de Lyon (from the BFM, the Nouveau Corpus d'Amsterdam and the DMF), github.com/sheiden/Medieval-French-Language-Toolkit
  5. ^ a b c d e f g h i Trésor de la langue française informatisé (2004), ATILF – CNRS & Université de Lorraine, atilf.fr/tlfi; electronic version of Imbs, Paul; Quemada, Bernard, eds. (1971–1994), Trésor de la langue française, Paris: CNRS / Gallimard
  6. ^ Wiktionary, the free dictionary, https://en.wiktionary.org
  7. ^ a b c d Harper, Douglas. Online Etymology Dictionary, https://www.etymonline.com
  8. ^ a b Stein, Achim; Kunstmann, Pierre; Gleßgen, Martin-D., eds., Nouveau Corpus d'Amsterdam, version 4 (lemmatised corpus of Old French texts, after A. Dees), Universität Stuttgart, github.com/michaniets/NCA (texts by DEAF siglum), p. SBernAn2S
  9. ^ a b Stein, Achim; Kunstmann, Pierre; Gleßgen, Martin-D., eds., Nouveau Corpus d'Amsterdam, version 4 (lemmatised corpus of Old French texts, after A. Dees), Universität Stuttgart, github.com/michaniets/NCA (texts by DEAF siglum), p. GuischartG_H
  10. ^ Möhren, Frankwalt, Dictionnaire étymologique de l'ancien français (DEAF): Complément bibliographique, electronic version (DEAFBiblEl), Heidelberger Akademie der Wissenschaften, alma.hadw-bw.de/deafbibl (texts by siglum, with their dates), p. GuischartG
  11. ^ a b Möhren, Frankwalt, Dictionnaire étymologique de l'ancien français (DEAF): Complément bibliographique, electronic version (DEAFBiblEl), Heidelberger Akademie der Wissenschaften, alma.hadw-bw.de/deafbibl (texts by siglum, with their dates), p. VMortAnW
  12. ^ a b c d Dictionnaire du Moyen Français, version 2015 (DMF 2015), ATILF – CNRS & Université de Lorraine, atilf.fr/dmf, p. s.v. déshonnête
  13. ^ a b Anglo-Norman Dictionary (AND2), Aberystwyth University, anglo-norman.net (2nd ed., 2005–), p. s.v. deshonesteté
  14. ^ Anglo-Norman Dictionary (AND2), Aberystwyth University, anglo-norman.net (2nd ed., 2005–), p. s.v. deshonesté
  15. ^ a b Kurath, Hans; Kuhn, Sherman M.; Lewis, Robert E., eds. (1952–2001), Middle English Dictionary, Ann Arbor: University of Michigan Press; online edition ed. Frances McSparran et al. (2000–2018)

Related etymologies

Cite this entry

“Desoneste.” Etymologically, 13 Nov. 2026, etymologically.com/fro/desoneste. Accessed 13 Nov. 2026.

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