Etymology and origin of the Romanian word idee
- Confidence
- Established
- Formation
- Borrowing
- First attested
- 1780 More words from the 18th century
- Borrowed from
- French idée
- Ultimate origin
- Ancient Greek ἰδέα
Etymology tree
Pronunciation
- /iˈde.e/[1]
Forms
idee f (plural idei)[1] In the Moldovan Cyrillic alphabet the word was written идее.[1]
Etymology
It is borrowed from French idée and directly borrowed from Latin idea;[2][3][4][5] DEX, MDA2 and the neologism dictionaries give both sources, while Ciorănescu names only the French word.[2][3][4][5] Tiktin gives the Greek and Latin word as the source.[6] The French noun is itself a learned loan from the philosophical Latin word, which meant “type of things”, recorded in French from 1119.[7] Latin took it from Ancient Greek ἰδέα (idéa, “appearance, form”), a verbal abstract of ἰδεῖν (ideîn, “to see”), from Proto-Indo-European *weyd- (“to see”).[8][7][1]
The Aromanian word idee has a separate source: Ciorănescu takes it from Modern Greek ιδέα (idéa).[4]
Earliest recorded meaning
Tiktin's first record of the word is dated 1780; his early quotations have the senses “idea, thought” and “notion, opinion”.[6] MDA2 dates its first record to 1814, in Dimitrie Țichindeal's book of moral fables.[3]
Semantic evolution
In 1848 Negulici still listed idee among the new words, defining it as a perception or notion that the mind receives through the senses.[9] Costinescu's dictionary of 1870 gives the French senses: a notion of something, the sketch of a work, a memory and a false fancy.[10] The older dictionaries also record idee for memory, as in mi-a ieșit din idee “it slipped my mind”.[11][12]
Colloquial uses include idee fixă for an obsession, a intra la idei “to start worrying”, and o idee “a tiny bit”, as in o idee mai mare “a touch bigger”.[2][3] Ciorănescu lists “a small quantity, a drop” as the second main sense of the word.[4] Compounds after French models appear in the press from the late 1960s: idee-cheie “key idea” in 1967, after French idée clé, and idee-forță in 1970.[13]
Timeline
- 1780 – first record in Tiktin.[6]
- 1814 – idee in Țichindeal's moral fables, MDA2's first record.[3]
- 1848 – listed in Negulici's dictionary of neologisms.[9]
- 1870 – Costinescu gives the French senses with French equivalents.[10]
- 1967 – idee-cheie “key idea” in the literary press.[13]
- 1970 – idee-forță in the literary press.[13]
Meanings
Noun
- An idea: any form of logical knowledge; a notion or concept.[2][3][1]
- A principle or basic thesis; a way of thinking; an opinion, view or conviction: a (nu) avea idee “to have (no) idea”, Ce idee! “What an idea!” (disapproving).[2][3]
- An intention, a plan or project; a suggestion: Am o idee: mergem pe jos. “I have an idea: we'll walk.”[2][3]
- The basic conception of a literary, artistic or scientific work.[2][5]
- idee fixă: an obsession;[2][3] (colloquial) worry, fear: a intra la idei “to start to worry”.[2][3]
- (colloquial) o idee (de): a small amount, a little: o idee mai lung “a touch longer”.[2][4]
- (music) A short phrase that a composer uses as a motif.[3]
Related words
References
- ^ a b c d e Wiktionary, the free dictionary, https://en.wiktionary.org
- ^ a b c d e f g h i j DEX (2009), Dicționarul explicativ al limbii române [Explanatory dictionary of the Romanian language], Bucharest: Editura Univers Enciclopedic, p. 486
- ^ a b c d e f g h i j k Academia Română, Institutul de Lingvistică „Iorgu Iordan – Al. Rosetti” (2010), Micul dicționar academic, 2nd ed., 4 vols., București: Univers Enciclopedic Gold, p. 1, 1104
- ^ a b c d e Ciorănescu, Alexandru (1958–1966), Diccionario etimológico rumano, La Laguna: Universidad de La Laguna (Romanian ed.: Dicționarul etimologic al limbii române, București: Saeculum, 2001), p. s.v. idee
- ^ a b c Marcu, Florin; Maneca, Constant (1986), Dicționar de neologisme, 3rd ed., București: Editura Academiei Republicii Socialiste România, p. s.v. idee
- ^ a b c Tiktin, Hariton (2000–2005), Rumänisch-deutsches Wörterbuch, 3rd ed., revised by Paul Miron and Elsa Lüder, 3 vols., Cluj-Napoca: Clusium, p. s.v. idée
- ^ a b Rey, Alain, ed. (1992), Dictionnaire historique de la langue française, Paris: Le Robert
- ^ Beekes, Robert S. P. (2010), Etymological Dictionary of Greek, with the assistance of Lucien van Beek, Leiden Indo-European Etymological Dictionary Series 10, Leiden; Boston: Brill
- ^ a b Negulici, I. D. (1848), Vocabular romînesc de toate vorbele streine întroduse pînă acum în limba romînească și de toate cuvintele ce s-ar mai putea introduce încă, București, p. s.v. idee
- ^ a b Costinescu, Ion (1870), Vocabularu romano-francesu, 2 vols., Bucuresci, p. 1, 522
- ^ Candrea, I.-A.; Adamescu, Gh. (1926–1931), Dicționarul enciclopedic ilustrat „Cartea Românească”, București: Cartea Românească, p. s.v. idee
- ^ Șăineanu, Lazăr (1929), Dicționar universal al limbei române, 6th ed., Craiova: Scrisul Românesc, p. 1, 302
- ^ a b c Dimitrescu, Florica (1997), Dicționar de cuvinte recente, 2nd ed., București: Logos (with the 3rd ed., 2013, in CLRE), p. s.v. idée
Related etymologies
Cite this entry
“Idee.” Etymologically, 11 Nov. 2026, etymologically.com/ro/idee. Accessed 12 Nov. 2026.
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