Etymologically

Etymology and origin of the Romanian word idee

Confidence
Established
Formation
Borrowing
First attested
1780 More words from the 18th century
Borrowed from
French idée
Ultimate origin
Ancient Greek ἰδέα
Etymology tree
inherited borrowed derived
Ancient Greek ἰδέα (idéa)
Latin idea
English idea
French idée
Romanian idee
German Idee
Italian idea
The word's journey
From the same root
Dutch idee ← ἰδέα
Latin ideālis ← idea

Pronunciation

Forms

idee f (plural idei)[1] In the Moldovan Cyrillic alphabet the word was written идее.[1]

Etymology

It is borrowed from French idée and directly borrowed from Latin idea;[2][3][4][5] DEX, MDA2 and the neologism dictionaries give both sources, while Ciorănescu names only the French word.[2][3][4][5] Tiktin gives the Greek and Latin word as the source.[6] The French noun is itself a learned loan from the philosophical Latin word, which meant “type of things”, recorded in French from 1119.[7] Latin took it from Ancient Greek ἰδέα (idéa, “appearance, form”), a verbal abstract of ἰδεῖν (ideîn, “to see”), from Proto-Indo-European *weyd- (“to see”).[8][7][1]

The Aromanian word idee has a separate source: Ciorănescu takes it from Modern Greek ιδέα (idéa).[4]

Earliest recorded meaning

Tiktin's first record of the word is dated 1780; his early quotations have the senses “idea, thought” and “notion, opinion”.[6] MDA2 dates its first record to 1814, in Dimitrie Țichindeal's book of moral fables.[3]

Semantic evolution

In 1848 Negulici still listed idee among the new words, defining it as a perception or notion that the mind receives through the senses.[9] Costinescu's dictionary of 1870 gives the French senses: a notion of something, the sketch of a work, a memory and a false fancy.[10] The older dictionaries also record idee for memory, as in mi-a ieșit din idee “it slipped my mind”.[11][12]

Colloquial uses include idee fixă for an obsession, a intra la idei “to start worrying”, and o idee “a tiny bit”, as in o idee mai mare “a touch bigger”.[2][3] Ciorănescu lists “a small quantity, a drop” as the second main sense of the word.[4] Compounds after French models appear in the press from the late 1960s: idee-cheie “key idea” in 1967, after French idée clé, and idee-forță in 1970.[13]

Timeline

  • 1780 – first record in Tiktin.[6]
  • 1814 – idee in Țichindeal's moral fables, MDA2's first record.[3]
  • 1848 – listed in Negulici's dictionary of neologisms.[9]
  • 1870 – Costinescu gives the French senses with French equivalents.[10]
  • 1967 – idee-cheie “key idea” in the literary press.[13]
  • 1970 – idee-forță in the literary press.[13]

Meanings

Noun

  1. An idea: any form of logical knowledge; a notion or concept.[2][3][1]
  2. A principle or basic thesis; a way of thinking; an opinion, view or conviction: a (nu) avea idee “to have (no) idea”, Ce idee! “What an idea!” (disapproving).[2][3]
  3. An intention, a plan or project; a suggestion: Am o idee: mergem pe jos. “I have an idea: we'll walk.”[2][3]
  4. The basic conception of a literary, artistic or scientific work.[2][5]
  5. idee fixă: an obsession;[2][3] (colloquial) worry, fear: a intra la idei “to start to worry”.[2][3]
  6. (colloquial) o idee (de): a small amount, a little: o idee mai lung “a touch longer”.[2][4]
  7. (music) A short phrase that a composer uses as a motif.[3]

References

  1. ^ a b c d e Wiktionary, the free dictionary, https://en.wiktionary.org
  2. ^ a b c d e f g h i j DEX (2009), Dicționarul explicativ al limbii române [Explanatory dictionary of the Romanian language], Bucharest: Editura Univers Enciclopedic, p. 486
  3. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k Academia Română, Institutul de Lingvistică „Iorgu Iordan – Al. Rosetti” (2010), Micul dicționar academic, 2nd ed., 4 vols., București: Univers Enciclopedic Gold, p. 1, 1104
  4. ^ a b c d e Ciorănescu, Alexandru (1958–1966), Diccionario etimológico rumano, La Laguna: Universidad de La Laguna (Romanian ed.: Dicționarul etimologic al limbii române, București: Saeculum, 2001), p. s.v. idee
  5. ^ a b c Marcu, Florin; Maneca, Constant (1986), Dicționar de neologisme, 3rd ed., București: Editura Academiei Republicii Socialiste România, p. s.v. idee
  6. ^ a b c Tiktin, Hariton (2000–2005), Rumänisch-deutsches Wörterbuch, 3rd ed., revised by Paul Miron and Elsa Lüder, 3 vols., Cluj-Napoca: Clusium, p. s.v. idée
  7. ^ a b Rey, Alain, ed. (1992), Dictionnaire historique de la langue française, Paris: Le Robert
  8. ^ Beekes, Robert S. P. (2010), Etymological Dictionary of Greek, with the assistance of Lucien van Beek, Leiden Indo-European Etymological Dictionary Series 10, Leiden; Boston: Brill
  9. ^ a b Negulici, I. D. (1848), Vocabular romînesc de toate vorbele streine întroduse pînă acum în limba romînească și de toate cuvintele ce s-ar mai putea introduce încă, București, p. s.v. idee
  10. ^ a b Costinescu, Ion (1870), Vocabularu romano-francesu, 2 vols., Bucuresci, p. 1, 522
  11. ^ Candrea, I.-A.; Adamescu, Gh. (1926–1931), Dicționarul enciclopedic ilustrat „Cartea Românească”, București: Cartea Românească, p. s.v. idee
  12. ^ Șăineanu, Lazăr (1929), Dicționar universal al limbei române, 6th ed., Craiova: Scrisul Românesc, p. 1, 302
  13. ^ a b c Dimitrescu, Florica (1997), Dicționar de cuvinte recente, 2nd ed., București: Logos (with the 3rd ed., 2013, in CLRE), p. s.v. idée

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“Idee.” Etymologically, 11 Nov. 2026, etymologically.com/ro/idee. Accessed 12 Nov. 2026.

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