istic Latin · revision 31388

+ {{homograph|1|that of yours}}

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+ {{infobox|confidence=established|formation=compound|attested=c. 250–184 BC, Plautus|origins=la iste}}

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+ ==Pronunciation==

+ * Classical: [ˈɪs.tɪk], [ɪsˈtɪk]^(Wiktionary)

+ * Ecclesiastical: [ˈis.tik], [isˈtik]^(Wiktionary)

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+ ==Forms==

+ '''istic''' (feminine istaec, neuter istuc or istucce or istoc); demonstrative pronoun^(Wiktionary)

+ Its forms include the accusatives ''istunc'', ''istanc'', the ablatives ''istōc'', ''istāc'' (Cato also ''istāce'') and a neuter ''istaec''.^(OLD 2012)

+ Lewis and Short reject the spelling ''isthic''.^(Lewis & Short 1879)

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+ ==Etymology==

+ The pronoun is formed [[af|la|iste|-ce|t1=that (of yours)|t2=here, there]].^(OLD 2012)^(Lewis & Short 1879)^(Wiktionary) De Vaan explains ⟨iste⟩ from [[itc-pro|*es-to-]], matching Umbrian ⟨estu⟩ “this”, with a first element ⟨*es-⟩ as in the oblique cases of [[m|la|is|t=he, that]] and the old pronoun ⟨*so-, *to-⟩.^(de Vaan 2008)

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+ ==Earliest recorded meaning==

+ Plautus has “you dare come to me with that talk of yours, shameless!” in the ''Aulularia'', and “is that the man you sold to my father?” in the ''Captivi''.^(OLD 2012)

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+ ==Semantic evolution==

+ As an adjective it is “that of yours”, what the person addressed has or does, and that which he mentions, as Terence's “no relative of mine had that name”.^(OLD 2012)^(Lewis & Short 1879) Gellius uses it without reference to a second person, as “this sort of”.^(OLD 2012) As a pronoun it is “that person or thing” you speak of or see;^(OLD 2012) ''istuc aetātis'' is “at your time of life”, and the ablative ''istōc'' “for that reason you give”, as Plautus' “all the more for that, because you are a liar, you'll be beaten”.^(OLD 2012)

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+ ==Timeline==

+ * c. 250–184 BC – Plautus of “that talk of yours”.^(OLD 2012)^(Köbler 2010)

+ * 234–149 BC – Cato has the ablative ''istāce''.^(OLD 2012)^(Köbler 2010)

+ * 190–159 BC – Terence of a name mentioned.^(OLD 2012)^(Köbler 2010)

+ * c. 165 AD – Gellius of “this sort of” impression.^(OLD 2012)^(Köbler 2010)

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+ ==Meanings==

+ ===Pronoun===

+ # ''(adjective)'' That of yours; that you mention;^(OLD 2012)^(Wiktionary) this (sort of).^(OLD 2012)

+ # That person or thing (you speak of);^(OLD 2012)^(Lewis & Short 1879)^(Wiktionary) ''istuc aetātis'', at your age.^(OLD 2012)

+ # ''(ablative neuter)'' For that reason (you give).^(OLD 2012)

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+ {{homograph|2|there where you are}}

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+ {{infobox|confidence=established|formation=derivation|attested=c. 250–184 BC, Plautus|origins=la iste}}

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+ ==Pronunciation==

+ * Classical: [ɪsˈtiːk]^(Wiktionary)

+ * Ecclesiastical: [isˈtik]^(Wiktionary)

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+ ==Forms==

+ '''istīc''' (not comparable)^(Wiktionary)

+ The older form ''istī'' is found in Plautus and Virgil.^(Lewis & Short 1879)

+ Plautus has ''isticin'' with ''-ne''.^(OLD 2012)

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+ ==Etymology==

+ The adverb is the old locative of the pronoun [[istic#1]], with [[m|la|-ce]], like [[hīc]] and [[illīc]].^(OLD 2012)^(Lewis & Short 1879)^(Wiktionary)

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+ ==Earliest recorded meaning==

+ Plautus has “take care not to tell anyone that my gold is there” in the ''Aulularia''.^(OLD 2012)^(Lewis & Short 1879)

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+ ==Semantic evolution==

+ It is “there by you”, of the place of the person addressed, and in letters where the recipient is, as Cicero's “I fear greatly what is being done where you are”;^(OLD 2012)^(Lewis & Short 1879)^(Wiktionary) Fronto uses it simply for “here”.^(OLD 2012)^(Lewis & Short 1879)^(Wiktionary) It is also “in that matter of yours”, and ''istīc sum'' is “I am with you, all attention”, as in Terence;^(OLD 2012)^(Wiktionary) Seneca uses it of a case under discussion.^(OLD 2012)^(Wiktionary) In a dispute it is “on your side”, as in a speech of Metellus Numidicus.^(OLD 2012)

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+ ==Timeline==

+ * c. 250–184 BC – Plautus of gold hidden there.^(OLD 2012)^(Köbler 2010)

+ * 190–159 BC – Terence: ''istīc sum''.^(OLD 2012)^(Köbler 2010)

+ * 81–43 BC – Cicero in letters of where his friend is.^(OLD 2012)^(Köbler 2010)

+ * 4 BC–65 AD – Seneca of the case in hand.^(OLD 2012)^(Köbler 2010)

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+ ==Meanings==

+ ===Adverb===

+ # There (where you are), over there; here.^(OLD 2012)^(Lewis & Short 1879)^(Wiktionary)

+ # In that matter (of yours); herein;^(OLD 2012)^(Wiktionary) ''istīc sum'', I am all attention.^(OLD 2012)

+ # On your side.^(OLD 2012)^(Wiktionary)

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+ ==Related words==

+ * [[iste]]

+ * [[illic]]

+ * [[istinc]]

+ * [[istūc]]

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+ ==References==

+ {{reflist}}