Etymologically

totidem

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Forms

totidem (indeclinable)[1]

Etymology

It is tot (“so many”) with the demonstrative particle of īdem (“the same”) and tantundem.[2][3][1] De Vaan traces tot to Proto-Italic *toti (“so many”) and Proto-Indo-European *to-ti.[4] Cognate with Sanskrit तति (táti, “so many”) and Ancient Greek τόσος (tósos, “so great, so much”).[4]

Earliest recorded meaning

Köbler dates it from Plautus,[5] who has “better to be ashamed than sorry, the same number of letters”, and “how many are they? As many as you and I”.[2]

Semantic evolution

It means just as many, the same number as one already named, as in the poet Hostius' wish for a hundred tongues and as many mouths, and without a number, as many.[2] With quot or, rarely, atque, it means as many as.[2][3][1] Cicero uses totidem verbis, “in as many words”, of a passage he translated word for word from Dicaearchus.[2] Church Latin glosses it “so many, just as many”.[6]

Timeline

  • c. 250–184 BC – Plautus in the senses as many and as many as.[2][5]
  • 81–43 BC – Cicero of a passage translated word for word.[2][5]

Meanings

Adjective

  1. Just as many, the same number.[2][3][1]
  2. With quot: as many as.[2][3][1]
  3. totidem verbis, in so many words.[2]

References

  1. ^ a b c d e Wiktionary, the free dictionary, https://en.wiktionary.org
  2. ^ a b c d e f g h i j Glare, P. G. W., ed. (2012), Oxford Latin Dictionary, 2nd ed., Oxford: Oxford University Press
  3. ^ a b c d Lewis, Charlton T.; Short, Charles (1879), A Latin Dictionary, Oxford: Clarendon Press
  4. ^ a b de Vaan, Michiel (2008), Etymological Dictionary of Latin and the other Italic Languages, Leiden Indo-European Etymological Dictionary Series 7, Leiden; Boston: Brill
  5. ^ a b c Köbler, Gerhard (2010), Lateinisches Abkunfts- und Wirkungswörterbuch für Altertum und Mittelalter, online ed., koeblergerhard.de
  6. ^ Stelten, Leo F. (1995), Dictionary of Ecclesiastical Latin, Peabody, Mass.: Hendrickson