Etymology and origin of the Latin word totidem
- Confidence
- Established
- Formation
- Compound
- First attested
- c. 250–184 BC, Plautus
- Ultimate origin
- Proto-Indo-European (*to-ti)
Forms
totidem (indeclinable)[1]
Etymology
It is tot (“so many”) with the demonstrative particle of īdem (“the same”) and tantundem.[2][3][1] De Vaan traces tot to Proto-Italic *toti (“so many”) and Proto-Indo-European *to-ti.[4] Cognate with Sanskrit तति (táti, “so many”) and Ancient Greek τόσος (tósos, “so great, so much”).[4]
Earliest recorded meaning
Köbler dates it from Plautus,[5] who has “better to be ashamed than sorry, the same number of letters”, and “how many are they? As many as you and I”.[2]
Semantic evolution
It means just as many, the same number as one already named, as in the poet Hostius' wish for a hundred tongues and as many mouths, and without a number, as many.[2] With quot or, rarely, atque, it means as many as.[2][3][1] Cicero uses totidem verbis, “in as many words”, of a passage he translated word for word from Dicaearchus.[2] Church Latin glosses it “so many, just as many”.[6]
Timeline
- c. 250–184 BC – Plautus in the senses as many and as many as.[2][5]
- 81–43 BC – Cicero of a passage translated word for word.[2][5]
Meanings
Adjective
- Just as many, the same number.[2][3][1]
- With quot: as many as.[2][3][1]
- totidem verbis, in so many words.[2]
Related words
References
- ^ a b c d e Wiktionary, the free dictionary, https://en.wiktionary.org
- ^ a b c d e f g h i j Glare, P. G. W., ed. (2012), Oxford Latin Dictionary, 2nd ed., Oxford: Oxford University Press
- ^ a b c d Lewis, Charlton T.; Short, Charles (1879), A Latin Dictionary, Oxford: Clarendon Press
- ^ a b de Vaan, Michiel (2008), Etymological Dictionary of Latin and the other Italic Languages, Leiden Indo-European Etymological Dictionary Series 7, Leiden; Boston: Brill
- ^ a b c Köbler, Gerhard (2010), Lateinisches Abkunfts- und Wirkungswörterbuch für Altertum und Mittelalter, online ed., koeblergerhard.de
- ^ Stelten, Leo F. (1995), Dictionary of Ecclesiastical Latin, Peabody, Mass.: Hendrickson
Cite this entry
“Totidem.” Etymologically, 19 Oct. 2026, etymologically.com/la/totidem. Accessed 20 Oct. 2026.
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