Etymologically

Etymology and origin of the French word bave

Confidence
Probable
Formation
Inherited
First attested
1300s More words from the 13th century
Inherited from
Latin *baba via Old French
Ultimate origin
Vulgar Latin *baba

Pronunciation

Forms

bave f (plural baves)[1] Old French beve (early 14th century); the form bave appears about 1460, in Villon.[2][3]

Etymology

It is inherited from Old French beve, inherited from Vulgar Latin *baba, an imitative word for the babbling of small children, which goes with dribbling.[2][4][5][3][6] The older form was soon replaced by the present form, remade after the verb baver.[4][2][1] The Latin word belongs to an expressive stem ⟨bab-⟩ suggesting the movement of the lips, as in babiller and babine.[2] The Grand Robert also mentions P. Guiraud's suggestion that links it with boue.[3]

Cognate with Italian bava, Spanish baba and Portuguese baba.[4][7][1]

Earliest recorded meaning

Littré quotes beve from Jean de Meun, beside escume and ordure, for the filth of which baptism cleanses.[7] In the early 14th century beve is recorded both as saliva and as babble.[2]

Semantic evolution

Though the sense “saliva” is found in the earliest texts, it took a long time to push out the first sense, babble, idle talk, which was the main one in the 15th and 16th centuries,[2][4] as in Villon's disant mainte bonne bave.[7] Furetière still recorded “babble” in 1690 and Trévoux in 1771, and it lives on in the derivatives bavard and bavarder.[2][4]

The word extended to the slime of snails and other molluscs (1690) and to the saliva of other animals,[2] and to the silk fibres the silkworm spins before its cocoon.[7][8] Probably through phrases such as bave de crapaud, it has been used since 1840 for spiteful, slanderous talk.[2][8]

Timeline

  • Early 14th century – The Old French form beve is recorded.[2][3]
  • c. 1460 – The form bave appears, in Villon.[3][2]
  • 15th–16th centuries – The sense “babble, idle talk” is the main one.[2]
  • 1690 – Furetière records the slime of molluscs and still the sense “babble”.[2]
  • 1771 – Trévoux still records “babble”.[2]
  • 1840 – Figurative use for venomous, slanderous talk.[2]

Meanings

Noun

  1. Drool, slobber: thick saliva running from the mouth of a person or the mouth of an animal; also the foam produced in some illnesses, such as rabies or epilepsy.[9][8][1]
  2. (figurative) Spiteful or slanderous talk.[9][8]
  3. The slime produced by certain molluscs: la bave de l'escargot.[9][8]
  4. (sericulture) The mass of fine threads the silkworm spins round itself before making its cocoon.[8][7]

Word family

  • baver
  • bavette
  • baveux
  • bavocher
  • bavure
  • bavard
  • bavarder
  • babiller
  • babine

References

  1. ^ a b c d e Wiktionary, the free dictionary, https://en.wiktionary.org
  2. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o Rey, Alain, ed. (1992), Dictionnaire historique de la langue française, Paris: Le Robert
  3. ^ a b c d e Rey, Alain, ed. (2005), Le Grand Robert de la langue française, electronic version, Paris: Le Robert
  4. ^ a b c d e Bloch, Oscar; Wartburg, Walther von (1989), Dictionnaire étymologique de la langue française, 8th ed., Paris: Presses universitaires de France
  5. ^ Guilbert, Louis; Lagane, René; Niobey, Georges, eds. (1971–1978; 1989), Grand Larousse de la langue française, Paris: Larousse
  6. ^ Wartburg, Walther von, et al. (1922–2002), Französisches Etymologisches Wörterbuch, 25 vols., Bonn / Leipzig / Basel: Klopp / Teubner / Zbinden, p. 1, 194a
  7. ^ a b c d e Littré, Émile (1873–1877), Dictionnaire de la langue française, 4 vols. and supplement, Paris: Hachette
  8. ^ a b c d e f Trésor de la langue française informatisé (2004), ATILF – CNRS & Université de Lorraine, atilf.fr/tlfi; electronic version of Imbs, Paul; Quemada, Bernard, eds. (1971–1994), Trésor de la langue française, Paris: CNRS / Gallimard
  9. ^ a b c Rey-Debove, Josette; Rey, Alain, eds. (2007), Le Petit Robert de la langue française, Paris: Le Robert

Related etymologies

Cite this entry

“Bave.” Etymologically, 14 Nov. 2026, etymologically.com/fr/bave. Accessed 15 Nov. 2026.

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