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+ ==Pronunciation==
+ * /anˈdar.se.ne/^(Wiktionary)
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+ ==Forms==
+ '''andarsene''' (pronominal, first-person singular present me ne vàdo, first-person singular past historic me ne andài, past participle andàtosene, first-person singular future me ne andrò, first-person singular subjunctive me ne vàda, second-person singular imperative vàttene)^(Wiktionary)
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+ ==Etymology==
+ It is [[af|it|andare|si|ne]]: the verb of going with the reflexive pronoun, which takes the form ⟨se⟩ before another clitic, and the pronoun meaning “from there”.^(GRADIT 2003)^(Wiktionary)^(Nocentini 2010) The pronoun “ne” continues [[la|inde|t=from there]].^(Nocentini 2010) The origin of “andare” itself is disputed: the LEI and Bonfante derive it from [[la|ambulō|t=to walk]], while many other scholars start from [[la-vul|*ambitō|alt=*ambitāre]].^(DELI 1999)^(LEI|2, 596)^(Nocentini 2010)
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+ Other Romance languages build the same kind of verb: [[fr|s'en aller]], [[ca|anar-se'n]] and, less closely, [[es|irse]].^(Wiktionary)
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+ ==Earliest recorded meaning==
+ GRADIT dates the verb to before 1294.^(GRADIT 2003) The TLIO records Old Italian ''andarne'' and ''andarsene'' for going away from a place or a person, beside ''andare via'', and already the euphemistic sense “to die”.^(TLIO)
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+ ==Semantic evolution==
+ Old Italian also used the pronominal form figuratively for a solid that turns to something less compact, as in ''andarsene in fumo'' “to go up in smoke”.^(TLIO) Many phrases came to mean “to leave”: ''pigliare l'ambio'', from the gait of a horse, is used for ''andarsene'' from 1587 (Giovanni Maria Cecchi).^(LEI|2, 596)
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+ In modern Italian the verb can stress a plain movement (''andarsene a casa''), mean leaving for good, serve as a euphemism for dying, and be said of time that slips by.^(GRADIT 2003)^(Wiktionary)
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+ ==Timeline==
+ * Before 1294 – ''Andarsene'' is first recorded.^(GRADIT 2003)
+ * 1587 – ''Pigliare l'ambio'' is used for ''andarsene'' by Giovanni Maria Cecchi.^(LEI|2, 596)
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+ ==Meanings==
+ ===Verb===
+ # To go away, [[m|en|leave]]: ''Si è fatto tardi, me ne vado.''^(GRADIT 2003)^(Wiktionary)
+ # To leave a place, with ''da'': ''Se ne andò dal paese a vent'anni.''^(Wiktionary)
+ # With intensive force, simply to go: ''andarsene a letto''.^(GRADIT 2003)
+ # ''(euphemistic)'' To [[m|en|pass away]], die: ''Il nonno se n'è andato in pace.''^(GRADIT 2003)^(Wiktionary)^(TLIO)
+ # ''(figurative)'' Of time, money and the like, to pass, slip away, be used up.^(GRADIT 2003)
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+ ==Related words==
+ * [[andare]]
+ * [[fr|s'en aller]]
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+ ==Usage notes==
+ The pronouns change with the person: ''me ne vado'', ''te ne vai'', ''se ne va''; the imperative is ''vattene'', and the compound tenses take ''essere'' (''se n'è andato'').^(Wiktionary)
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+ ==References==
+ {{reflist}}