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+ {{infobox|confidence=established|formation=borrowing|attested=1283 (optenir)|origins=la teneō}}
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+ ==Pronunciation==
+ * IPA: /ɔp.tə.niʁ/^(Wiktionary)
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+ ==Forms==
+ '''obtenir'''^(Wiktionary)
+ ''Optenir'' (1283), with the usual devoicing of ⟨b⟩ before ⟨t⟩, ''obtenir'' from about 1355 (Bersuire).^(DHLF 1992)^(Grand Robert 2005)^(GLLF 1989)
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+ ==Etymology==
+ It is [[bor|la|obtineō|t=to hold firmly; to possess; to maintain, keep]], from [[m|la|ob-]] and [[m|la|teneō|t=to hold]], adapted to the conjugation of [[tenir]].^(TLFi)^(DHLF 1992)^(Bloch & Wartburg 1989)^(Grand Robert 2005)^(FEW|7, 292a) The Latin verb took the sense “to obtain” only in the 14th and 15th centuries, according to Bloch and Wartburg.^(Bloch & Wartburg 1989)
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+ ==Earliest recorded meaning==
+ A charter of 1283 from the Aube has ''optenir'' in the sense “to succeed in being granted (what one wants)”; the GLLF gives Beaumanoir about the same time.^(TLFi)^(GLLF 1989)
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+ ==Semantic evolution==
+ Bersuire (14th century) and Froissart use it of gaining something by favour or by force, and Commynes (about 1500) of attaining an end, such as a victory.^(Littré 1873)^(TLFi) ''Obtenir qqch. à qqn'', “to get something for someone”, is in Bossuet (1669).^(GLLF 1989) In mathematics it meant to arrive at a result by calculation (Académie, 1762), and in chemistry to produce a substance (the ''Méthode de nomenclature chimique'' of Lavoisier and others, 1787).^(DHLF 1992)^(TLFi)
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+ The learned noun [[obtention]] (1360, ''obstencion'') was formed on the Latin past participle ''obtentus'' to serve as its noun.^(DHLF 1992)^(Bloch & Wartburg 1989)
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+ ==Timeline==
+ * 1283 – ''Optenir'' “to be granted”.^(TLFi)
+ * c. 1355 – ''Obtenir'', Bersuire.^(Grand Robert 2005)^(GLLF 1989)
+ * c. 1500 – “To attain”, Commynes.^(TLFi)
+ * 1762 – To arrive at (a result), Académie.^(DHLF 1992)
+ * 1787 – To produce (chemistry).^(TLFi)
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+ ==Meanings==
+ ===Verb===
+ # To [[m|en|obtain]], get, be granted: ''obtenir un visa'', ''obtenir qqch. de qqn''.^(Petit Robert 2007)^(Wiktionary)
+ # To achieve, reach (a result): ''obtenir de bons résultats'', ''obtenir son diplôme''.^(TLFi)^(Petit Robert 2007)
+ # To produce, arrive at (a substance, a result by calculation).^(TLFi)^(DHLF 1992)
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+ ==Word family==
+ * [[obtention]]
+ * [[obtenteur]]
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+ ==Related words==
+ * [[tenir]]
+ * [[la|obtineō]]
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+ ==References==
+ {{reflist}}