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+ {{infobox|confidence=established|formation=borrowing|attested=1119, Philippe de Thaon, Comput (idees)|origins=grc ἰδεῖν}}

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+ ==Pronunciation==

+ * IPA: /i.de/^(Wiktionary)

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+ ==Forms==

+ '''idée''' ''f'' (plural idées)^(Wiktionary)

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+ ==Etymology==

+ It is [[bor|la|idea|t=idea, archetype (in Plato's sense)]], itself [[bor|grc|ἰδέα|tr=idéa|t=form, look; kind; idea]].^(TLFi)^(DHLF 1992)^(Bloch & Wartburg 1989)^(FEW|4, 532a)^(Wiktionary) The Greek noun is from [[m|grc|ἰδεῖν|tr=ideîn|t=to see]], which serves as the aorist of [[m|grc|ὁράω|tr=horáō]], from the Indo-European root [[ine-pro|*weyd-|t=to see]], also behind Latin [[m|la|videō]] and so [[voir]].^(DHLF 1992)^(TLFi)^(Petit Robert 2007)

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+ The Greek word meant “visible form”, then “kind, class”, and in Plato the ideal form grasped by thought, Late Latin also used “idea” for “visible form”.^(TLFi)^(DHLF 1992)

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+ ==Earliest recorded meaning==

+ In 1119 Philippe de Thaon's ''Comput'' uses ''idees'' for the forms of things present in God from all eternity.^(TLFi)^(DHLF 1992)

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+ ==Semantic evolution==

+ Bloch and Wartburg note that it was little used before the 17th century.^(Bloch & Wartburg 1989) Oresme (1370–72) used ''ydee'' for the archetype of a species, and in 1458 it meant the plan of an action to come.^(TLFi)^(DHLF 1992) In 1487 it took up the Latin sense “form, image”, and in Ronsard (1552) the image of something as the senses perceive it.^(TLFi)

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+ Descartes (1637) used it for any representation formed by thought, and Pascal (1656) for a set of opinions.^(DHLF 1992)^(GLLF 1989) ''Projet, dessein'' is in Molière (1670), and ''en idée'' “in imagination” in Corneille (1643).^(TLFi) ''J'ai idée que'' dates from 1775, ''idée fixe'' and ''idée reçue'' from the 19th century, and Belgian French ''avoir de l'idée'' means “to be imaginative”.^(DHLF 1992)

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+ ==Timeline==

+ * 1119 – ''Idees'', the forms of things in God, in Philippe de Thaon.^(TLFi)

+ * 1370–1372 – ''Ydee'', an archetype, in Oresme.^(TLFi)

+ * 1487 – “Form, image”.^(TLFi)

+ * 1552 – A sense image, in Ronsard.^(TLFi)

+ * 1637 – Any representation of the mind, in Descartes.^(GLLF 1989)^(DHLF 1992)

+ * 1656 – Opinions, in Pascal.^(TLFi)

+ * 1670 – A plan, in Molière.^(TLFi)

+ * 1775 – ''Avoir idée que'' in Beaumarchais.^(DHLF 1992)

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+ ==Meanings==

+ ===Noun===

+ # An [[m|en|idea]], a thought, notion: ''l'idée du beau'', ''une idée générale''.^(Larousse)^(Petit Robert 2007)

+ # A plan, [[m|en|intention]]: ''avoir l'idée de partir'', ''bonne idée !''^(TLFi)^(DHLF 1992)

+ # An approximate notion: ''avoir une idée de'', ''aucune idée''.^(DHLF 1992)^(BHVF)

+ # ''Les idées'': opinions, views: ''idées politiques''.^(Larousse)^(DHLF 1992)

+ # The mind: ''se mettre dans l'idée''.^(DHLF 1992)^(BHVF)

+ # ''(philosophy)'' In Plato, an eternal intelligible form, an [[m|en|archetype]].^(Petit Robert 2007)^(Grand Robert 2005)

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+ ==Related words==

+ * [[idéal]]

+ * [[idéologie]]

+ * [[voir]]

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+ ==References==

+ {{reflist}}